Post by willytex Post by firstname.lastname@example.org
you must suspend your attempts to understand by means
of scrutinizing words, reverse the activity of the mind
which seeks externally
waking, dreaming, dreamless sleep, and nondual.
Apparently Wilber ascribes to the 'two truths doctrine' of
Nagarjuna. For Wilber no metaphysical doctrine or apparent
reality is true in an absolute sense: only formless awareness,
"the simple feeling of being," exists absolutely.
I think the 'feeling of being' is what needs to be overcome.
Neither 'I am' nor 'I am not'. No 'is or is not' either.
Although there may be thoughts and sensation in the higher
states, there is no claiming of them, no 'here nor there'. From
ordinary perspective it may be called a 'feeling of being' when
one has to give a logical account of it, but there is no notice
of being or non-being in it. It oughtn't to come up. I think any
'feeling of being' is a dualistic logical construct and the
Post by willytex
"And tell me: is that story, sung by mystics and sages the
world over, any crazier than the scientific materialism story,
which is that the entire sequence is a tale told by an idiot,
full of sound and fury, signifying absolutely nothing? Listen
very carefully: just which of those two stories actually sounds
As we may understand it, life in delusion IS a tale told
by an idiot full of sound and fury signifying nothing.
The diamond sutra says as much.
Delving seriously into material science for wisdom, (which
is certainly the wrong place to look), one must come to the
conclusion that humans are meat machines locked into pointless
The future claims possibility, but the past is one inevitable stream.
Time is time, and the past once was the future. This reductionism
totally denies human nature. It would be a living death, if anyone
could possibly believe it all the time, rather than on lonely dark
nights or in the glare of outspoken controversy.
Matter has never really mattered to humans. Their life
and concerns are of a different and unrelated order.
Neither prosperity nor poverty bring consistent results.
Subjectivity over rules the commonly called 'objective'
world. It can't be really real to us. No use to pretend that
it is definitive 'reality'.
Post by willytex
'A Brief History of Everything'
By Ken Wilber