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Shankara's Tantra Adwaita
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w***@yahoo.com
2008-07-04 17:45:15 UTC
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The Adwaita way of seeing mantra and tantra was established
by the Adi Shankara at Jyotirmath when he composed the
scriptures of 'Sri Vidya'.

The POV of Adwaita, according to the Adwaita Tradition of
Shankaracharya, is 'conciousness is the only reality', everything
else is an appearance.

In Adwaita Tantra, the business of mantra, (from 'man', to think,
and 'tra', a tool), that is, Shri, Saraswati, in the Adwaita
Tradition,
is to provide a yoga that would provide the ideal oportunity for
the transcending of the illusion.

Guadapada, the founder of the Adwaita Tradition in India, wrote
that enlightment consists of 'dispelling the illusion' that people
possess individual soul-monads.

The yoga of Shankara, 'Sri Vidya', is Absolute Knowledge, the
highest knowledge. According to Shankara, there is no higher
truth than the truth of the Absolute One. And there is no faster
path than the yoga tantra of Sri Vidya.

"There are three issues that must be understood in order to
understand Adwaita: The realization that there are *not two*;
the realization that things and events are an *illusion*; and the
*dispelling of illusion*" by a process of experiential yogic
transcendental meditation.

Then, the Witness, Purusha, the Transcendental Person,
stands all by Itself as the Self in PC, or Pure Consciosness:
Adwaita.

Read more:

Gaudapada:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaudapada

The Adi Shankara described the yogic path in his vartika on
the commentary on Yoga Sutras by Vyasa. Shankaracharya
has also explained the mantra and tantra in his commentaries
on Mandukhya Upanishad and in the Saundaryalahari. Shankara
agrees with Patanjali: "There should be soundless repition of the
Prananva, mantra]..."

The Adwaita Tantra tradition is very simple to learn because it
is based on pure monism: there is One reality, all the rest are
appearance only. Swami Brhamanand Saraswati, Shankaracharya
of Jyotirmath, taught that Brahman is Light; it needs no other
light for illumination.

"The difference is the same as the difference between rice and
paddy. Remove the skin of the paddy and it is rice. Similarly,
remove the covering of Maya, and the Jiva will become Brahman."
- Guru Dev

His Holiness Shri Jagatguru Shankaracharya
Maharaj of Jyotirmath
Bharatiya Darshana-Parishhad
All-India Philosophical Association
Calcutta, December 1950

Read more:

Adwaita Vedanta:
http://www.rwilliams.us/
C***@gmail.com
2008-07-07 21:30:20 UTC
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The Adwaita way of seeing mantra and tantra was established
by the Adi Shankara at Jyotirmath when he composed the
scriptures of 'Sri Vidya'.
That is not what you posted previously in the "Pilgrimage to
Badrinath..

Here read your own words..nothing is said of "tantra' and Sri Adi
Shankar at Jyothir math
Post by w***@yahoo.com
Shankaracharya of the North...,
Pilgrimage to Badrinath:http://tinyurl.com/4c3n2g
I am assuming you read the PRINT ON THE SIGN AT THE ENTRANCE OF
JYOSIMUTT? courtesy of the 2009 Field Ambulance (Ibex Brigade).
Read items #1 again WillyTexie..just so we are clear.. and I quote..

1). Shankar, Later known as SHANKARACHARYA was born in a family of
Acharya Shiv Guru about 2500 years ago in the village of Kerala.

That was 2500 years ago..503 BCE..As I have said for more than 8 years
now..
Are you not the person who insisted many many times that Adi Shankara
lived about 788AD?

And just answer me a question..(If as you suggest Sri Adi Shankar was
a non-dualist)
..why is Sri Adi Shankara worshipping in devotion the deity of
Bradrinaryan? see item
4.) His holiness Shankaracharya repaired the damaged temple,
reinstalled the idol of Badrinaryan and restated worship of Badrinath.

And why are all the paintings decorating the walls of the temple
dedicated to Lord Krishna? (as shown in the photo above the entrance
sign)

And just one more question if you please..
Who is the deity of Sri Badrinaryan?
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The POV of Adwaita, according to the Adwaita Tradition of
Shankaracharya, is 'conciousness is the only reality', everything
else is an appearance.
In Adwaita Tantra, the business of mantra, (from 'man', to think,
and 'tra', a tool), that is, Shri, Saraswati, in the Adwaita
Tradition,
is to provide a yoga that would provide the ideal oportunity for
the transcending of the illusion.
that enlightment consists of 'dispelling the illusion' that people
possess individual soul-monads.
The yoga of Shankara, 'Sri Vidya', is Absolute Knowledge, the
highest knowledge. According to Shankara, there is no higher
truth than the truth of the Absolute One. And there is no faster
path than the yoga tantra of Sri Vidya.
"There are three issues that must be understood in order to
understand Adwaita: The realization that there are *not two*;
the realization that things and events are an *illusion*; and the
*dispelling of illusion*" by a process of experiential yogic
transcendental meditation.
Then, the Witness, Purusha, the Transcendental Person,
Adwaita.
Gaudapada:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaudapada
The Adi Shankara described the yogic path in his vartika on
the commentary on Yoga Sutras by Vyasa. Shankaracharya
has also explained the mantra and tantra in his commentaries
on Mandukhya Upanishad and in the Saundaryalahari. Shankara
agrees with Patanjali: "There should be soundless repition of the
Prananva, mantra]..."
The Adwaita Tantra tradition is very simple to learn because it
is based on pure monism: there is One reality, all the rest are
appearance only. Swami Brhamanand Saraswati, Shankaracharya
of Jyotirmath, taught that Brahman is Light; it needs no other
light for illumination.
"The difference is the same as the difference between rice and
paddy. Remove the skin of the paddy and it is rice. Similarly,
remove the covering of Maya, and the Jiva will become Brahman."
- Guru Dev
His Holiness Shri Jagatguru Shankaracharya
Maharaj of Jyotirmath
Bhratiya Darshana-Parishhad
All-India Philosophical Association
Calcutta, December 1950
Adwaita Vedanta:http://www.rwilliams.us/
w***@yahoo.com
2008-07-08 16:03:44 UTC
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The Adwaita way of seeing mantra and tantra was established
by the Adi Shankara at Jyotirmath when he composed the
scriptures of 'Sri Vidya'.
 That is not what you posted previously in the "Pilgrimage to
Badrinath..
Apparently, the Adi Shankara composed almost all of his
writings at Jyotirmath: Commentaries on Vedanta Sutras,
major Upanishads and the Anandalahari. From what I've
read, Shankara gained enlightenment at Jyotirpeetha in
the year 810 A.D.

Sri Vidya - Auspicious Wisdom:
http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/srividya.htm
Who is the deity of Sri Badrinaryan?
The Buddha - Shankara was a Buddhist, obviously, so he
worshiped the Bodhi Tree called Badri.

The image is of black stone and it represents Vishnu
seated in meditative pose. According to Kathleen Cox,
a recent vistor to the shrine, "The Badrinath shrine is a
famous vastu-designed temple that has been renovated
through the centuries. Certain beliefs consider this
image to be that of the Buddha, given the seated posture
and the placement of the arms. The meditative pose of
the black stone representation of Vishnu certainly
recalls the Buddha, which is not a coincidence.

Read more:

Subject: At Badrinath in the Himalayas
Author: Willytex
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Date: 2 Mar 2006
http://tinyurl.com/5j973n
C***@gmail.com
2008-07-09 23:58:28 UTC
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The Adwaita way of seeing mantra and tantra was established
by the Adi Shankara at Jyotirmath when he composed the
scriptures of 'Sri Vidya'.
That is not what you posted previously in the "Pilgrimage to
Badrinath..
Apparently, the Adi Shankara composed almost all of his
writings at Jyotirmath: Commentaries on Vedanta Sutras,
major Upanishads and the Anandalahari. From what I've
read, Shankara gained enlightenment at Jyotirpeetha in
the year 810 A.D.
Sri Vidya - Auspicious Wisdom:http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/srividya.htm
Post by C***@gmail.com
Who is the deity of Sri Badrinaryan?
The Buddha - Shankara was a Buddhist, obviously, so he
worshiped the Bodhi Tree called Badri.
The image is of black stone and it represents Vishnu
seated in meditative pose. According to Kathleen Cox,
a recent vistor to the shrine, "The Badrinath shrine is a
famous vastu-designed temple that has been renovated
through the centuries. Certain beliefs consider this
image to be that of the Buddha, given the seated posture
and the placement of the arms. The meditative pose of
the black stone representation of Vishnu certainly
recalls the Buddha, which is not a coincidence.
Subject: At Badrinath in the Himalayas
Author: Willytex
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Date: 2 Mar 2006http://tinyurl.com/5j973n
.."Shankaracharya Swaroopanand Saraswati: I was also his disciple,
Brahmanand Saraswati's. He was my Guru. He would not accept any
offerings from his disciples.
Disciple should be such that he gives to his Guru everything. Then
nothing belongs to the disciple, everything is Guru's. Guru should be
such that he does not take anything from the disciple. He thinks only
good of his disciple.

Q: My Lord, Shankaracharya Brahmananda Saraswati Ji Maharaj, who is
our pujyapaad (whose feet are worthy of our respect), who is
brahmaleen (absorbed in Brahma, the omnipresent form of God) who is
presiding over the Jyotirpith, who is the teacher of the entire
universe - that he used to instruct mantras to his disciples. I would
like to know which mantras were those?

Shankaracharya: The Lord, Shankaracharya Brahmananda Saraswati Ji
Maharaj strictly adhered to the varna (caste) and ashram (four stages
of life) systems. He believed in one's varna by birth. Whosoever came
to him to become a disciple, he used to ask him which form of God he
was in love with. Whichever form the new disciple had an interest in,
that form he would explain to the new disciple. [Guru Dev] used to
explain, either you should depend on your own inclination or else, he,
after understanding your previous life and which form of God you
worshipped then, would instruct the initiate accordingly.
Without having an ishtadevata (a personal form of God), no one could
have a mantra from him. The very meaning of mantra is ishtadevata.
Therefore, along with every mantra, thinking or reflecting over the
form of the ishtadevata is essential. Therefore, in all the modes of
worship, one reflects over one's ishtadevata before chanting or
meditating with one's mantra.

Q: The religion that Guru Dev preached was connected with five forms
of God-Devatas-such as Pancha Devupasana and so what relation has it
with Vedic Sanatan Dharma (worship of God) as well as in regard to the
varna (caste system) and ashram (four stages of life) systems?

Shankaracharya: The Lord, Adi Shankara was a great exponent of Vedic
Sanatana Dharma. God, he taught, is grouped into six forms. He
preached six types - five based on forms of God like Shiva, Shakti,
Vishnu, etc. and one, Nirakar, without form. However, the worship of
God without form being extremely difficult was reserved for
renunciates. That is what Adi Shankaracharya had instructed.
Bhagavan Shree Shankara revived Vedic Sanatan Dharma. He said God has
six forms. So accordingly, Maharaj Ji gave upadesha (initiation) to
meditate upon those forms for the sake of our worship.

Q: Brahmananda Saraswati did not charge any fees when he used to
initiate?

Shankaracharya: This is a principle. A quotation from Goswami
Tulsidas:-
"The guru who charges or takes money from his disciples in return for
initiation, steals disciple's property and goes to damnable hell."
For that reason Gurudeva used to give upadesha (initiation) without
any fees. He used to say "If I accept any gift from the disciple (or
fees), then his sins are transmitted to me."
http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/sources/text/SwamiSwaroopanand.htm



Bhagvatpaad Adi Shankaracharya, Incarnation of Lord Shiva, established
four Peethams (Monastaries and Institutions) at four cardinal
directions of India.
The Peethams at East, West, South and North are named as
Sri Govardhan Peetham, Puri (Orissa) Presently headed by
H.H.Nischalananda Saraswati Swamiji,
Sri Sharada Peetham, Dwaraka (Gujarat) Presently headed by
H.H.Swaroopananda Saraswati Swamiji,
Shri Sharada Peetham, Sringeri (Karnataka) Presently headed by
H.H.Bharati Teertha Swamiji and
Shri Jyotish Peetham (Uttaranchal) Presently headed by
H.H.Swaroopananda Saraswati Swamiji.
http://www.govardhanpeetham.org/
karmalube
2008-07-10 02:54:16 UTC
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cold blue eyes

You've been beating this dead horse now for a long time. Why exactly, are
you so obsessed with it? You're like a drug fieinding heroine addict that's
out of dope. Give it up....... Surrender...... Turn it over....Let it go

Or do you simply enjoy the spiritual masturbation?
C***@gmail.com
2008-07-10 20:20:47 UTC
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cold blue eyes
You've been beating this dead horse now for a long time. Why exactly, are
you so obsessed with it? You're like a drug fieinding heroine addict that's
out of dope. Give it up....... Surrender...... Turn it over....Let it go
Or do you simply enjoy the spiritual masturbation?
At issue is the-- "teachings of Sri Adi Shankara --
The only "dead horse"..is the dead space between willytex's &
Peter's (and people like yourself) ears...and your hearts.

The central teaching of Sri Adi Shankara .... His -Bhajo Govindam -
is alive today as it was 2500 years ago not only in my heart but the
hearts of 955 million Hindus.

The malicious act of demeaning HIs teaching to a spurious claim of
"mayavadi" or Buddhist Philosophy is just mean-spirited and
thoughtless.

Perhaps you should "let it go"..
karmalube
2008-07-10 23:39:49 UTC
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Dear Cold Blue Eyes

It seems that you are confusing the results for the path. Culturing the
heart is a result of attaining a level of being that is established in the
unchanging, non-duel absolute state of consciousness/awareness. Culturing
the heart is not the goal or the means but simply the result of attaining
enlightenment.
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cold blue eyes
You've been beating this dead horse now for a long time. Why exactly, are
you so obsessed with it? You're like a drug fieinding heroine addict that's
out of dope. Give it up....... Surrender...... Turn it over....Let it go
Or do you simply enjoy the spiritual masturbation?
At issue is the-- "teachings of Sri Adi Shankara --
The only "dead horse"..is the dead space between willytex's &
Peter's (and people like yourself) ears...and your hearts.
The central teaching of Sri Adi Shankara .... His -Bhajo Govindam -
is alive today as it was 2500 years ago not only in my heart but the
hearts of 955 million Hindus.
The malicious act of demeaning HIs teaching to a spurious claim of
"mayavadi" or Buddhist Philosophy is just mean-spirited and
thoughtless.
Perhaps you should "let it go"..
C***@gmail.com
2008-07-11 01:15:54 UTC
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Post by karmalube
Dear Cold Blue Eyes
It seems that you are confusing the results for the path. Culturing the
heart is a result of attaining a level of being that is established in the
unchanging, non-duel absolute state of consciousness/awareness. Culturing
the heart is not the goal or the means but simply the result of attaining
enlightenment.
Very nice job of backstepping and spouting meaningless rhetoric that
has ABSOLUTEly nothing to do with anything relevant.
You have learned "tm-speak" very well!..
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cold blue eyes
You've been beating this dead horse now for a long time. Why exactly, are
you so obsessed with it? You're like a drug fieinding heroine addict that's
out of dope. Give it up....... Surrender...... Turn it over....Let it go
Or do you simply enjoy the spiritual masturbation?
At issue is the-- "teachings of Sri Adi Shankara --
The only "dead horse"..is the dead space between willytex's &
Peter's (and people like yourself) ears...and your hearts.
The central teaching of Sri Adi Shankara .... His -Bhajo Govindam -
is alive today as it was 2500 years ago not only in my heart but the
hearts of 955 million Hindus.
The malicious act of demeaning HIs teaching to a spurious claim of
"mayavadi" or Buddhist Philosophy is just mean-spirited and
thoughtless.
Perhaps you should "let it go"..
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