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Causal Nexus, Cycles and Chance
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Willytex
2004-08-25 04:49:58 UTC
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Samsara is the cyclic conditioned existence which is governed by the natural
law of cause and effect. The frozen memories of nature include the causal
law that every action has an equal but opposite reaction.

According to Georg Fuerstien, "India's sages assure us that this law applies
with equal force in the realm of the mind to our thoughts and volitions."
But because science looks only at the material realm, it fails to appreciate
the comprehensive nature of causation and therefore allows for meaningless
chance events which is not logical.

For the aware reflective TMer however, all events are governed by three
gunas born of nature. Existence is an infinitely complex network of
conditions giving rise to other conditions, just like Indra's Net. Says
Fuerstien: "Samsara, as the British mathematician and philosopher Alfred
North Whitehead would say, is "process." And what is being processed is the
human psyche, which must undergo repeated world experience in order to
realize its true destiny beyond all manifestation, consisting in the
realization of Being-Consciousness."

Thus, as G. I. Gurdjief said "The world is a school..." and if human life
can be said to have an overarching purpose at all, it is to graduate through
to the Awakening of wisdom or Knowledge. The main error is Ignorance, which
"keeps the karmic Nexus going" according to Fuerstien. Shakya the Muni
termed it the Twelvefold Chain of Causation, that is, everything proceeds
from causes - one thing leads to another.

The Causal Nexus is the root of our limited and limiting experience of space
and time and is the primary origination of our experience of suffering as
seemingly individuated beings. Simple as this darshana seems to be, it is at
the same time, very deep and subtle. Because if we don't have causal nexus
then what do we have? It's very difficult to raise a family on nothing!

The Chinese philosopher, Chuang Tsu (c. 369-268 B.C.) said: "I once dreamt I
was a butterfly. Suddenly I awakened, and there I lay like a man, myself
again. Now, which am I? A man dreaming he is a butterfly, or a butterfly
dreaming he is man?"
p***@gmail.com
2015-11-25 00:50:24 UTC
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Asceticism is a very old South Asian yoga tradition - Sramana, or the ascetic sect which originated even before the composition of the Rig Veda in which ascetics are described as friends of Vayu, The Wind, and the Gandharvas, celestial music players.

The idea is called tapas - burning up the accumulation of past karma by performing austerities such as meditation and hatha yoga positions and various diets and breathing techniques. If you want to burn up a lot of karma in a short amount of time, you should try meditating surrounded by five fires in the middle of summer in Austin.

However, the most beneficial tapas of all and highly recommended for householders is the tapas of "maouni", keeping absolute silence, even in times of verbal abuse.

"The giving up of activities that are based on material desire is what great learned men call sanyasa. And giving up the results of all activities is what the wise call yoga." - BG: 18.2
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More notes on the causal nexus, cycles and chance
Samsara is the cyclic conditioned existence which is governed by the natural
law of cause and effect. The frozen memories of nature include the causal
law that every action has an equal but opposite reaction.
According to Georg Fuerstien, "India's sages assure us that this law applies
with equal force in the realm of the mind to our thoughts and volitions."
But because science looks only at the material realm, it fails to appreciate
the comprehensive nature of causation and therefore allows for meaningless
chance events which is not logical.
For the aware reflective TMer however, all events are governed by three
gunas born of nature. Existence is an infinitely complex network of
conditions giving rise to other conditions, just like Indra's Net. Says
Fuerstien: "Samsara, as the British mathematician and philosopher Alfred
North Whitehead would say, is "process." And what is being processed is the
human psyche, which must undergo repeated world experience in order to
realize its true destiny beyond all manifestation, consisting in the
realization of Being-Consciousness."
Thus, as G. I. Gurdjief said "The world is a school..." and if human life
can be said to have an overarching purpose at all, it is to graduate through
to the Awakening of wisdom or Knowledge. The main error is Ignorance, which
"keeps the karmic Nexus going" according to Fuerstien. Shakya the Muni
termed it the Twelvefold Chain of Causation, that is, everything proceeds
from causes - one thing leads to another.
The Causal Nexus is the root of our limited and limiting experience of space
and time and is the primary origination of our experience of suffering as
seemingly individuated beings. Simple as this darshana seems to be, it is at
the same time, very deep and subtle. Because if we don't have causal nexus
then what do we have? It's very difficult to raise a family on nothing!
The Chinese philosopher, Chuang Tsu (c. 369-268 B.C.) said: "I once dreamt I
was a butterfly. Suddenly I awakened, and there I lay like a man, myself
again. Now, which am I? A man dreaming he is a butterfly, or a butterfly
dreaming he is man?"
p***@gmail.com
2016-09-16 14:39:10 UTC
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According to Brahmananda Saraswati, "Brahman is Light, it needs no other light to illuminate it."

Does this statement by Guru Dev indicate a means to gain transcendental knowledge? In other words, did Guru Dev teach or practice a technique that was similar to the practice of TM?

I think he did and his statement supports of my thesis. I present here the first lines of Shankara Acharaya's commentary on the Brahma Sutras. The first sentence in the Brahma Sutras is: "Now, an enquiry into Brahman."

Thus Badarayana establishes from the very beginning that the ancient philosophers were concerned with the Absolute truth, which is everywhere, which they termed Brahman. Badarayana believed that the truth can be known based on the four great dicta found in the Upanishads.
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Asceticism is a very old South Asian yoga tradition - Sramana, or the ascetic sect which originated even before the composition of the Rig Veda in which ascetics are described as friends of Vayu, The Wind, and the Gandharvas, celestial music players.
The idea is called tapas - burning up the accumulation of past karma by performing austerities such as meditation and hatha yoga positions and various diets and breathing techniques. If you want to burn up a lot of karma in a short amount of time, you should try meditating surrounded by five fires in the middle of summer in Austin.
However, the most beneficial tapas of all and highly recommended for householders is the tapas of "maouni", keeping absolute silence, even in times of verbal abuse.
"The giving up of activities that are based on material desire is what great learned men call sanyasa. And giving up the results of all activities is what the wise call yoga." - BG: 18.2
Post by Willytex
More notes on the causal nexus, cycles and chance
Samsara is the cyclic conditioned existence which is governed by the natural
law of cause and effect. The frozen memories of nature include the causal
law that every action has an equal but opposite reaction.
According to Georg Fuerstien, "India's sages assure us that this law applies
with equal force in the realm of the mind to our thoughts and volitions."
But because science looks only at the material realm, it fails to appreciate
the comprehensive nature of causation and therefore allows for meaningless
chance events which is not logical.
For the aware reflective TMer however, all events are governed by three
gunas born of nature. Existence is an infinitely complex network of
conditions giving rise to other conditions, just like Indra's Net. Says
Fuerstien: "Samsara, as the British mathematician and philosopher Alfred
North Whitehead would say, is "process." And what is being processed is the
human psyche, which must undergo repeated world experience in order to
realize its true destiny beyond all manifestation, consisting in the
realization of Being-Consciousness."
Thus, as G. I. Gurdjief said "The world is a school..." and if human life
can be said to have an overarching purpose at all, it is to graduate through
to the Awakening of wisdom or Knowledge. The main error is Ignorance, which
"keeps the karmic Nexus going" according to Fuerstien. Shakya the Muni
termed it the Twelvefold Chain of Causation, that is, everything proceeds
from causes - one thing leads to another.
The Causal Nexus is the root of our limited and limiting experience of space
and time and is the primary origination of our experience of suffering as
seemingly individuated beings. Simple as this darshana seems to be, it is at
the same time, very deep and subtle. Because if we don't have causal nexus
then what do we have? It's very difficult to raise a family on nothing!
The Chinese philosopher, Chuang Tsu (c. 369-268 B.C.) said: "I once dreamt I
was a butterfly. Suddenly I awakened, and there I lay like a man, myself
again. Now, which am I? A man dreaming he is a butterfly, or a butterfly
dreaming he is man?"
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